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JISC persistent identifiers meeting

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CrossRefNews RT @epentz: Example of a Cool URI - http://dx.doi.org/10.1126/science.1157784 (and there are 40 million more where that came from) #jiscpid

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mhausenblas RT @olyerickson: Hey #DOI #LinkedData people: what about ld.handle.net and ld.doi.org ??? #jiscpid

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olyerickson Hey #DOI #LinkedData people: what about ld.handle.net and ld.doi.org ??? #jiscpid

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olyerickson Does #purl have same issues? RT @cardcc: #jiscpid important discussion RE #DOIs & #LinkedData: http://bit.ly/a7S5qD & http://bit.ly/bgLHLV

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olyerickson #mEDRA & #BookData links dead... RT @adrianstevenson: #eLeonet links to #DOI RAs != persistent http://bit.ly/cfnbs9 A lesson here? #jiscpid

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adrianstevenson The ability to register persistent DOIs doesn't er, ... persist for two of these agencies http://bit.ly/cfnbs9 . A lesson here? #jiscpid

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olyerickson @cks "303 Madness or HTTP Redirects & the Giant Global Graph" #LinkedData #DOI #jiscpid Related: http://bit.ly/a7S5qD http://bit.ly/bgLHLV

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tonyhammond RT @cardcc: #jiscpid did well to stimulate discussion on DOIs & Linked Data: http://bit.ly/a7S5qD and http://bit.ly/bgLHLV. Read comments!

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cardcc #jiscpid did well to stimulate important discussion on DOIs & Linked Data: http://bit.ly/a7S5qD and http://bit.ly/bgLHLV. Read comments!

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mfenner RT @tonyhammond: New CrossTech post 'DOI: What Do We Got?' http://bit.ly/bnCkrn #jiscpid #linkeddata #doi

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marind CrossTech: DOI: What Do We Got?: Following the JISC seminar last week on persistent identifiers (#jiscpid on Twitt... http://bit.ly/bgLHLV

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LornaMCampbell Not one but two blog posts on #jiscpid http://blogs.cetis.ac.uk/lmc/ I'm too good to you guys...

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olyerickson RT @rdmpage: @tonyhammond: New @CrossTech post '#DOI: What Do We Got?' http://bit.ly/bnCkrn #jiscpid #linkeddata #doi

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andypowe11 nice summary RT @tonyhammond: New CrossTech post 'DOI: What Do We Got?' http://bit.ly/bnCkrn #jiscpid #linkeddata #doi

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rdmpage RT @tonyhammond: New CrossTech post 'DOI: What Do We Got?' http://bit.ly/bnCkrn #jiscpid #linkeddata #doi

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tonyhammond New CrossTech post 'DOI: What Do We Got?' http://bit.ly/bnCkrn #jiscpid #linkeddata #doi

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olyerickson Many comments as Handle/DOI world grasps conneg: "#DOIs, URIs and Cool Resolution" http://bit.ly/a7S5qD #linkeddata #jiscpid #oaiore

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titticimmino RT @olyerickson: Update 2 (including #oaiore "splash screens") "#DOIs, URIs and Cool Resolution" http://bit.ly/a7S5qD #linkeddata #jiscpid

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olyerickson Update 2 (including #oaiore "splash screens") "#DOIs, URIs and Cool Resolution" http://bit.ly/a7S5qD #linkeddata #jiscpid

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TwapperKeeperEX : @adrianstevenson your TwapperKeeper #jiscpid is ready for download at http://exports.twapperkeeper.com/jiscpid-4b6d2d56324a7.tar

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ostephens @jukesie your blog post http://is.gd/7LsBU from #jiscpid was v useful for me - hadn't seen RIDIR but has overlap with some #telstar work :)

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olyerickson Updated w/ #oai_ore "solution": "#DOIs, URIs and Cool Resolution" http://bit.ly/a7S5qD #LinkedData #Cool_URIs #URIs #jiscpid

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cardcc Interesting post on DOIs in Linked Data RT @olyerickson: New post: "DOIs, URIs & Cool Resolution" http://bit.ly/a7S5qD #LinkedData #jiscpid

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kidehen RT @olyerickson: New post: "#DOIs, URIs and Cool Resolution" http://bit.ly/a7S5qD #LinkedData #Cool_URIs #URIs #jiscpid

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olyerickson New post: "#DOIs, URIs and Cool Resolution" http://bit.ly/a7S5qD #LinkedData #Cool_URIs #URIs #jiscpid

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jukesie writing up some of my notes from yesterdays #jiscpid - they seem to make sense which worries me a little as nothing did yesterday..

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jfarnhill RT @paulwalk: I really quite enjoyed the spirit of compromise and pragmatism today - felt like progress to me:-) #jiscpid - Agreed!

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cardcc @ptsefton No, I like: it would have been persistent but marketing wouldn't let me identifier #jiscpid

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ptsefton @cardcc Bounded Persistent Identifier? #jiscpid

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olyerickson #jiscpid Is there a URI for the "JISC Persistent Identifier Workshop" event? All I can find are our tweets!

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cardcc Trick we missed today: find non-oxymoronic name for what #jiscpid discussed. Almost-persistent identifier? wannabePI? PohIcantbebotheredI?

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FedoraRepo RT@paulwalk presentation from today's #jiscpid event, "A Digital Object Identifier is a business proposition." http://bit.ly/bgrhWM

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paulwalk My presentation from today's #jiscpid event http://bit.ly/bgrhWM

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cardcc @mrgunn oh defnitely not THE last. Persistent (or less persistent than you ever thought) identifiers are Groundhog Day relived... #jiscpid

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paulwalk I really quite enjoyed the spirit of compromise and pragmatism today - felt like progress to me:-) #jiscpid

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olyerickson Brain hurts after #jiscpid discussion! ;) RT @sgillies: Profited from the #jiscpid discussion #doi

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sgillies Profited from the #jiscpid discussion.

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cardcc #jiscpid meeting coming to an end. Just think, that's my last ever persistent identifier meeting! Joy unbounded!!!

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andypowe11 currently waiting at hosital iin bath - if it takes much longer i could have gone to london and back for #jiscpid and still been early

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hughglaser Les will be happy - CERIF nearly got mentioned but didn't - oh dear, it just did #jiscpid

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ostephens #jiscpid coincidental correspondence on Twitter today "people don't understand DOIs", "they do however understand URLs" http://is.gd/7CLvH

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gluejar @cardcc #jiscpid There's a PRC ISBN that got used for 14,000 different books. in e eur, ISBNs used to make book look real.

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TwapperKeeperEX : @rachelbruce your TwapperKeeper #jiscpid is ready for download at http://exports.twapperkeeper.com/jiscpid-4b699de9a7d69.tar

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gluejar RT @daveyp @andypowe11 How persistent are academic publishers? Well, their salespeople are always ringing us up ;-) #jiscpid

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nmg Also, http://bit.ly/91KUAs seems to make the wrong comparison: Handles (+DOIs) should be compared with DNS+URI+HTTP all together #jiscpid

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nmg Hmmm. Some parts of the DOI FAQ http://bit.ly/a2FKfh read rather like FUD aimed at open Web technologies #jiscpid

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adrianstevenson @paulwalk "Content negotiation has been around for a while, but it's very much back on the agenda" #jiscpid

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cardcc @tonyhammond coexistence of #DOI with #linkeddata would be really good! #jiscpid

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tonyhammond But perhaps #DOI can coexist with #linkeddata? What we'd like to see. RT @andypowe11: ... but gain all benefits of #linkeddata ... #jiscpid

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andypowe11 RT @andypowe11: @tonyhammond but gain all benefits of #linkeddata - agree legacy is a real issue #jiscpid

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kidehen RT @nmg: Soton linked data system with PIDs: http://bit.ly/dAjUOq #jiscpid #linkeddata

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andrewspong RT @jonathanatwork: RT @daveyp: @andypowe11 "How persistent are academic publishers?" Well, their salespeople are always ringing us up ;-) #jiscpid

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jonathanatwork RT @daveyp: @andypowe11 "How persistent are academic publishers?" Well, their salespeople are always ringing us up ;-) #jiscpid

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olyerickson RT @lescarr: @epentz Q: Likely that #crossref #DOI resolver would support content negotiation for pub metadata in #RDF? #LinkedData #jiscpid

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tonyhammond @cardcc @epentz Yes, CrossRef not engaged in trading. But its members are. #DOI manages relocated objects through trade or other. #jiscpid

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tonyhammond @jimdowning Yes, Y accepts X's prefixes. Once minted the DOI string has no semantics. Admin authority at individual handle level. #jiscpid

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epentz @cardcc #jiscpid CrossRef not a "trading system" - it uses #DOI for system of persistent scholarly citation

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tonyhammond @cardcc Let's just say "I don't think so". What you gonna do: server redirects?! CrossRef runs a dedicated name directory service. #jiscpid

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cardcc @tonyhammond agree #DOI works as trading system not necessarily right 4 other domains; worried about apllicability re research data #jiscpid

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olyerickson Or http://dx.doi.org/... RT @andypowe11: @tonyhammond if #cool_uri starts http://doi.net/... what's the problem? #jiscpid

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nmg Soton linked data system with PIDs: http://bit.ly/dAjUOq #jiscpid

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tonyhammond @andypowe11 Well yes, if we rewind a decade. But then we need to fix on that TLD. And we lose benefit of name/service separation. #jiscpid

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andypowe11 @tonyhammond if the cool uri starts e.g. http://doi.net/... what's the problem? #jiscpid (repeated with hashtag)

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cardcc @tonyhammond old publisher redirects URIs to new publisher, by algorithm. Same as telling CrossRef that it's moved? #jiscpid

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jimdowning @tonyhammond Y needs to commit to either X's DNS domains, or X's DOI prefices, or the IDs die. Same issue either way. #jiscpid

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olyerickson #STM is a stable space, therefore #DOI, but individual publishers less so RT @andypowe11: how "persistent" are academic publishers? #jiscpid

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cardcc @lorcanD yes I remember the Yale thing. Looks like another case of "and then some magic happens"! #jiscpid

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tonyhammond So, journal X moves to publisher Y. Where are the cool URI's now? And how does the DNS help us here? #jiscpid

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daveyp @andypowe11 "How persistent are academic publishers?" Well, their salespeople are always ringing us up ;-) #jiscpid

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cardcc Ok need irony flag :-( RT @cardcc: Is the use of a DOI a public statement of lack of confidence in the future of your organisation? #jiscpid

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andypowe11 @olyerickson within publishing - a relatively narrow social space - yes - i agree - how persistent are academic publishers? #jiscpid

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tonyhammond @cardcc #DOI more a recognition of the reality of trading with commercial assets. Orgs may remain stable while assets change hands. #jiscpid

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olyerickson No! Simply that change happens! RT @cardcc: Is use of #DOI a statement of lack of confidence in the future of your organisation? #jiscpid

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thereporat @cardcc huh? no, just a lack of confidence in the org chart as reflected in domain URLs #jiscpid

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lorcanD .@cardcc Re org vs external, I was interested to see the Yale Persistent Linking Service http://bit.ly/7bpkFY #jiscpid

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olyerickson But #DOI is now a "social construct" in Publishing RT @efoundations: blog: more famous than simon cowell - http://bit.ly/dvNSPm #jiscpid

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cardcc Is the use of a DOI a public statement of lack of confidence in the future of your organisation? #jiscpid

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andypowe11 read in brummie accent - noddy holder of slade was once asked him if he wanted a kipper tie - "yes please, put two sugars in mine" #jiscpid

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andypowe11 @paulwalk's use of "doi (brummie accent)" yesterday reminds me of an old slade joke... #jiscpid

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efoundations blog post: more famous than simon cowell - http://bit.ly/dvNSPm #jiscpid

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cardcc I tried SameAs.org with string "Chris Rusbridge". Answer: many copies of 404 Not Found: no info about this URI at this resource! #jiscpid

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andypowe11 :-) RT: @cardcc @atreloar yes, as somone said: you've got a DOI? Now you've got 2 problems instead of one! #jiscpid

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paulwalk @cardcc @jonathanatwork FWIW, DOI is registered with the URI 'info:' scheme #jiscpid

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nmg @cardcc Recourse to a central service? That's rather brittle. #jiscpid

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lescarr @jonathanatwork DOI allegedly "implements the URI concept", but by that they mean "implements bits of the URI concept" #jiscpid

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cardcc @nmg try Google Scholar? "See all n versions"? #jiscpid

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LornaMCampbell @cardcc just sit tight, you'll come all the way back round eventually ;) #jiscpid

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cardcc How many institutions have robust procedures to avoid re-using staff identifiers, and re-issuing same identifier on reappointment? #jiscpid

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nmg @cardcc If you're trying to count your citations (and people are citing different PIDs for your work), then it is a problem. #jiscpid

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cardcc I'm lost. Probably back on the Circle Line (@LornaMCampbell) #jiscpid

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LornaMCampbell Authority is established, not bestowed - Hugh Glaser #jiscpid

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cardcc How bad a problem when separate PIDs for copies of objects in separate repositories? So far doesn't worry me much (Googlejuice?) #jiscpid

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nmg @hughglaser showing http://dotac.info/ #jiscpid

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cardcc @jonathanatwork but a DOI is not a URI! We've already been told that... #jiscpid

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jonathanatwork @olyerickson DOI = the URI (URN) concept + a data model + social infrastructure. See here: http://bit.ly/9MEmJ2 #jiscpid

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cardcc If like me you're not that familiar with URN-NBN, http://bit.ly/dlJ0Cn gives an idea #jiscpid

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philbarker Just mishear CRIS-ORE interoperability as Chris Awre interoperability #jiscpid

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olyerickson #DOI provides standard implementation of "policy" RT @cardcc: ...wonder why not simply use http URIs + policy? #jiscpid

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LornaMCampbell Awards @BasCordewener the Claude Ostyn Memorial Prize for first mention of "low hanging fruit" :) #jiscpid

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atreloar @cardcc Re ANDS *policy* on PIDS for changing objects, don't have one yet. Suspect we will allow it if disciplines need it #jiscpid

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