Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:40:42 +0000 - tweet id 5018735748 - 154 - geo info [ 0 0] - 2009-10-20 09:40:42
garvinfo Bertot - need to build a new professional, the "e-gov librarian" #dlcfall09
Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:36:43 +0000 - tweet id 5018659245 - 153 - geo info [ 0 0] - 2009-10-20 09:36:43
amylibrarian What will happen to staff as collections dwindle? #dlcfall09 We must prove value
Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:36:03 +0000 - tweet id 5018645792 - 152 - geo info [ 0 0] - 2009-10-20 09:36:03
freegovinfo @rschon agree with Ithaka's analysis of current landscape. but want more positive proposal than rethinking role of docs librarian #dlcfall09
Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:34:15 +0000 - tweet id 5018610411 - 151 - geo info [ 0 0] - 2009-10-20 09:34:15
rhonabwy This e-government librarianship program is something I absolutely would have gone for when I was picking a LIS program. #dlcfall09
Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:32:31 +0000 - tweet id 5018576256 - 150 - geo info [ 0 0] - 2009-10-20 09:32:31
btv3 RT @rschon: GPO is developing more continuing ed programs. #dlcfall09 Agree, but not enough to maintain current number of libraries.
Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:31:14 +0000 - tweet id 5018551131 - 149 - geo info [ 0 0] - 2009-10-20 09:31:14
freegovinfo @rschon does full report have sample leg changes you're advocating? I assumed it was changes to regional requirements #dlcfall09
Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:31:00 +0000 - tweet id 5018546417 - 148 - geo info [ 0 0] - 2009-10-20 09:31:00
rschon @freegovinfo Also good point. Docs needs better tools and bib infrastructure as a prerequisite to many of our recommendations. #dlcfall09
Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:30:44 +0000 - tweet id 5018541275 - 147 - geo info [ 0 0] - 2009-10-20 09:30:44
rschon @freegovinfo I don't agree. Legislative change would empower GPO to regulate FDLP respecting future needs not static in 1962. #dlcfall09
Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:28:16 +0000 - tweet id 5018494569 - 146 - geo info [ 0 0] - 2009-10-20 09:28:16
freegovinfo @rschon good point, but journals and docs are different. + journals have diff structure and bib tools for access #dlcfall09
Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:27:04 +0000 - tweet id 5018472176 - 145 - geo info [ 0 0] - 2009-10-20 09:27:04
rschon @btv3 GPO is developing more continuing ed programs to provide incentives for e-only depositories to stay. Maybe not enough? #dlcfall09
Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:26:03 +0000 - tweet id 5018453037 - 144 - geo info [ 0 0] - 2009-10-20 09:26:03
amylibrarian @freegovinfo Yes & No. I see value in "Point to Web" expertise, showcasing digitized, born digital/EL content. #dlcfall09
Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:25:40 +0000 - tweet id 5018445845 - 143 - geo info [ 0 0] - 2009-10-20 09:25:40
rschon @freegovinfo @rossh Has the withdrawal of print journal collections led to an erosion of expertise there?Interested in your views #dlcfall09
Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:24:09 +0000 - tweet id 5018416678 - 142 - geo info [ 0 0] - 2009-10-20 09:24:09
freegovinfo @rschon deregulate = leg change in title 44 #dlcfall09
Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:23:50 +0000 - tweet id 5018410445 - 141 - geo info [ 0 0] - 2009-10-20 09:23:50
Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:21:54 +0000 - tweet id 5018373338 - 139 - geo info [ 0 0] - 2009-10-20 09:21:54
rschon @freegovinfo What do you mean 'deregulate'? We emphasize need for third-party preservation and audit of GPo/FDsys. #dlcfall09
Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:21:25 +0000 - tweet id 5018363871 - 138 - geo info [ 0 0] - 2009-10-20 09:21:25
freegovinfo @amylibrarian collections build expertise. how to gain expertise without collections? #dlcfall09
Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:21:22 +0000 - tweet id 5018362939 - 137 - geo info [ 0 0] - 2009-10-20 09:21:22
amylibrarian I absolutely agree that gov docs librarians need to move in the direction of gov't information librarians. Highlighting expertise #dlcfall09
Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:19:05 +0000 - tweet id 5018319455 - 136 - geo info [ 0 0] - 2009-10-20 09:19:05
rhonabwy I wonder whether and how this conversation happened for the Patent and Trademark Depository Library Program. #dlcfall09
Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:16:58 +0000 - tweet id 5018279136 - 135 - geo info [ 0 0] - 2009-10-20 09:16:58
kjclark Ithaca report - same ideas that have been out but very well presented and organized- a good document to being discussion #dlcfall09
Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:16:29 +0000 - tweet id 5018270375 - 134 - geo info [ 0 0] - 2009-10-20 09:16:29
btv3 Services are not enough to be an incentive. Not valued by aministrations. #dlcfall09
Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:15:57 +0000 - tweet id 5018260008 - 133 - geo info [ 0 0] - 2009-10-20 09:15:57
freegovinfo IMHO building digital docs collections would help libraries w/ tech infrastructure & expertise. that's incentive to stay in fdlp #dlcfall09
Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:15:16 +0000 - tweet id 5018246895 - 132 - geo info [ 0 0] - 2009-10-20 09:15:16
Tue, 20 Oct 2009 12:52:45 +0000 - tweet id 5017841797 - 121 - geo info [ 0 0] - 2009-10-20 08:52:45
jmburroughs Looking forward to first morning session. Must say I agreed with the vast majority of the Ithaka summary. Should be a good talk. #dlcfall09
Tue, 20 Oct 2009 12:38:29 +0000 - tweet id 5017599268 - 120 - geo info [ 0 0] - 2009-10-20 08:38:29
freegovinfo here comes Tuesday DLC. lots happening today including 8:30 plenary with John Bertot and my fav: demystifying digital deposit. #dlcfall09
Tue, 20 Oct 2009 12:03:01 +0000 - tweet id 5017038415 - 119 - geo info [ 0 0] - 2009-10-20 08:03:01
lyndamk #dlcfall09 thx for the updates! Keep em coming!
Tue, 20 Oct 2009 10:55:37 +0000 - tweet id 5016110020 - 118 - geo info [ 0 0] - 2009-10-20 06:55:37
Tue, 20 Oct 2009 03:31:49 +0000 - tweet id 5009629035 - 117 - geo info [ 0 0] - 2009-10-19 23:31:49
freegovinfo @fakegodort those were capri pants. #dlcfall09
Tue, 20 Oct 2009 02:20:54 +0000 - tweet id 5007959153 - 116 - geo info [ 0 0] - 2009-10-19 22:20:54
fakegodort Does anyone else feel the floor moving? I think I've had one too many jello shooters. And is @freegovinfo wearing a dress? #dlcfall09
Mon, 19 Oct 2009 22:49:37 +0000 - tweet id 5002886298 - 115 - geo info [ 0 0] - 2009-10-19 18:49:37
freegovinfo Public Printer's 10 assumptions are in the draft FDLP strategic plan draft from 4/17/09 p7-8 http://bit.ly/2RcZZ5 #dlcfall09
Mon, 19 Oct 2009 22:03:18 +0000 - tweet id 5001821987 - 114 - geo info [ 0 0] - 2009-10-19 18:03:18
garvinfo #dlcfall09 SLA people ISO godort people at Skydome - unbelievable view!
Mon, 19 Oct 2009 21:24:22 +0000 - tweet id 5000924378 - 113 - geo info [ 0 0] - 2009-10-19 17:24:22
amylibrarian This is my first time attending #dlcfall09 Is Fall meeting- "chat about it?" Is Spring meeting (Buffalo, NY) – "action?"
Mon, 19 Oct 2009 21:14:41 +0000 - tweet id 5000700545 - 112 - geo info [ 0 0] - 2009-10-19 17:14:41
rschon Maybe a quarter to a third of librarians have 'needs' to add to their collections. #dlcfall09
Mon, 19 Oct 2009 21:03:04 +0000 - tweet id 5000442359 - 111 - geo info [ 0 0] - 2009-10-19 17:03:04
amylibrarian Cool idea: Librarything-type interface 4 N&O- Students find matching records. Have collections of what N&O or getting digitized #dlcfall09
Mon, 19 Oct 2009 20:57:03 +0000 - tweet id 5000312158 - 110 - geo info [ 0 0] - 2009-10-19 16:57:03
fakegodort @freegovinfo Yes, and notice Sauron has #nopants #dlcfall09
Mon, 19 Oct 2009 20:55:33 +0000 - tweet id 5000279757 - 109 - geo info [ 0 0] - 2009-10-19 16:55:33
jmburroughs And the low battery crashes my party again. Wish I could keep discussing here. Wondering what (new) I could contrib. at mic. #dlcfall09
Mon, 19 Oct 2009 20:50:05 +0000 - tweet id 5000160275 - 108 - geo info [ 0 0] - 2009-10-19 16:50:05
amylibrarian Gr8 idea 4 Needs & Offers - Nat'l computerized system where we could type the Sudoc, title, yr -Computer would match the N&O #dlcfall09
Mon, 19 Oct 2009 20:48:23 +0000 - tweet id 5000122940 - 107 - geo info [ 0 0] - 2009-10-19 16:48:23
jmburroughs @rschon Thank you. Details would help & I'm open to new options. Collection mgmt & discovery easily interrelated here. #dlcfall09
Mon, 19 Oct 2009 20:44:32 +0000 - tweet id 5000038373 - 106 - geo info [ 0 0] - 2009-10-19 16:44:32
jmburroughs @freegovinfo Nah, I like my job. I'm just complaining about what feels like a prevailing attitude (going back over 100 years). #dlcfall09
Mon, 19 Oct 2009 20:39:33 +0000 - tweet id 4999932779 - 105 - geo info [ 0 0] - 2009-10-19 16:39:33
jmburroughs @rschon Which selective was this? How much did it cost? Based on what? Money & "quality" often sticking points. #dlcfall09
Mon, 19 Oct 2009 20:37:26 +0000 - tweet id 4999888203 - 104 - geo info [ 0 0] - 2009-10-19 16:37:26
freegovinfo @jmburroughs I'll do your job if you do mine #dlcfall09
Mon, 19 Oct 2009 20:36:25 +0000 - tweet id 4999872301 - 103 - geo info [ 0 0] - 2009-10-19 16:36:25
rschon @amyewest @jmburroughs - heard a v.lrg selective just had a firm cat the whole colln to move offsite - why not more of this? $? #dlcfall09
Mon, 19 Oct 2009 20:34:57 +0000 - tweet id 4999839927 - 102 - geo info [ 0 0] - 2009-10-19 16:34:57
jmburroughs @amyewest Yes, surely someone else will do my job for me. If we would suck it up & do it, we'd be done by now. #dlcfall09
Mon, 19 Oct 2009 20:33:44 +0000 - tweet id 4999813917 - 101 - geo info [ 0 0] - 2009-10-19 16:33:44
jmburroughs @rschon I think many of us do because we feel it addresses the expectation of the comprehensive collection. #dlcfall09
Mon, 19 Oct 2009 20:31:36 +0000 - tweet id 4999766889 - 100 - geo info [ 0 0] - 2009-10-19 16:31:36
amyewest @jmburroughs sometimes seems like a giant game of chicken in which institutions wait to see who blinks & pays for the cataloging. #dlcfall09
Mon, 19 Oct 2009 20:31:30 +0000 - tweet id 4999764614 - 99 - geo info [ 0 0] - 2009-10-19 16:31:30
Mon, 19 Oct 2009 20:30:23 +0000 - tweet id 4999739589 - 98 - geo info [ 0 0] - 2009-10-19 16:30:23
rschon @jmburroughs Legally, comprehensive collecting only req'd prospectively, not retrospectively. Do anyway even tho not req'd? #dlcfall09
Mon, 19 Oct 2009 20:29:56 +0000 - tweet id 4999729285 - 97 - geo info [ 0 0] - 2009-10-19 16:29:56
jmburroughs I'll sound like a broken record here, but how much easier would it be if all the regionals had completely cataloged collections? #dlcfall09
Mon, 19 Oct 2009 20:28:58 +0000 - tweet id 4999708851 - 96 - geo info [ 0 0] - 2009-10-19 16:28:58
jmburroughs 4 regionals in this corner all just said "What?" re: the "myth" of retro. collecting. How should we gather complete collections? #dlcfall09
Mon, 19 Oct 2009 20:25:23 +0000 - tweet id 4999634647 - 95 - geo info [ 0 0] - 2009-10-19 16:25:23
rschon Cindy Etkin: legally, regionals do not have to collect retrospectively. #dlcfall09
Mon, 19 Oct 2009 20:21:47 +0000 - tweet id 4999557765 - 94 - geo info [ 0 0] - 2009-10-19 16:21:47
jmburroughs May need to implement sharing previous discard lists to streamline repeat offers. Requires me building & maintaining db, though. #dlcfall09
Mon, 19 Oct 2009 20:20:49 +0000 - tweet id 4999536292 - 93 - geo info [ 0 0] - 2009-10-19 16:20:49
rschon Cindy Etkin: widely varing regional approaches to "assisting" with discards. Some very traditional; others using wiki/facebook. #dlcfall09
Mon, 19 Oct 2009 20:17:36 +0000 - tweet id 4999465530 - 92 - geo info [ 0 0] - 2009-10-19 16:17:36
fakegodort Everyone seems to be a little cranky, esp. @vdglenn. In related news, where will ppl be drinking later? I will be wearing a cape. #dlcfall09
Mon, 19 Oct 2009 20:17:30 +0000 - tweet id 4999463097 - 91 - geo info [ 0 0] - 2009-10-19 16:17:30
fakegodort @freegovinfo I am The All-Seeing Eye. (uh, you might want to re-think those shoes with the #nopants) #dlcfall09
Mon, 19 Oct 2009 20:15:26 +0000 - tweet id 4999416348 - 90 - geo info [ 0 0] - 2009-10-19 16:15:26
rschon Cindy Etkin: interest in selling/ebaying discards (also heard at ARL). #dlcfall09 http://myloc.me/16rZG
Mon, 19 Oct 2009 20:14:23 +0000 - tweet id 4999393632 - 89 - geo info [ 0 0] - 2009-10-19 16:14:23
amyewest @freegovinfo even when they are scanned, they're taken as is. we need to put mental energy into transforming data4ppl to data. #dlcfall09
Mon, 19 Oct 2009 20:13:14 +0000 - tweet id 4999369639 - 88 - geo info [ 0 0] - 2009-10-19 16:13:14
rschon Cindy Etkin: FDL handbook emphasizes comprehensiveness and integrity "in the state or region." #dlcfall09
Mon, 19 Oct 2009 20:11:53 +0000 - tweet id 4999341542 - 87 - geo info [ 0 0] - 2009-10-19 16:11:53
rschon Cindy Etkin: title 44 section 1912 discusses regionals providing "asistance" in the withdrawals process. #dlcfall09
Mon, 19 Oct 2009 20:10:52 +0000 - tweet id 4999320273 - 86 - geo info [ 0 0] - 2009-10-19 16:10:52
freegovinfo @amyewest and stat tables etc are exactly what google *didn't* scan. #dlcfall09
Mon, 19 Oct 2009 20:07:50 +0000 - tweet id 4999255999 - 85 - geo info [ 0 0] - 2009-10-19 16:07:50
freegovinfo @amyewest agreed. priorities for other stuff is social, stat tables etc are going to be difficult technologically #dlcfall09
Mon, 19 Oct 2009 20:05:48 +0000 - tweet id 4999211209 - 84 - geo info [ 0 0] - 2009-10-19 16:05:48
amyewest @vdglenn and ones that need more than just digitizing like stat tables, bibliographies w/funky formatting, etc. #dlcfall09
Mon, 19 Oct 2009 19:26:35 +0000 - tweet id 4998396433 - 83 - geo info [ 0 0] - 2009-10-19 15:26:35
vdglenn we're past the 'important titles' to digitize - we need to move on the small, more unique items. #dlcfall09
Mon, 19 Oct 2009 19:24:07 +0000 - tweet id 4998345254 - 82 - geo info [ 0 0] - 2009-10-19 15:24:07
Mon, 19 Oct 2009 19:20:01 +0000 - tweet id 4998259337 - 80 - geo info [ 0 0] - 2009-10-19 15:20:01
freegovinfo @vdglenn correct hash is #dlcfall09 on #falldlc09 :-)
Mon, 19 Oct 2009 19:19:40 +0000 - tweet id 4998252238 - 79 - geo info [ 0 0] - 2009-10-19 15:19:40
TAC_NISO RT @amylibrarian: Q. Why should we work digitizing when Google doing it? A: recall-1 library in Alexandria-it's gone now - LOCKSS #dlcfall09
Mon, 19 Oct 2009 19:18:46 +0000 - tweet id 4998233682 - 78 - geo info [ 0 0] - 2009-10-19 15:18:46
freegovinfo RT @vdglenn: what would my dean do if he got a letter from gpo re: digitizing docs? what would your dean/director do? #dlcfall09
Mon, 19 Oct 2009 19:16:19 +0000 - tweet id 4998182708 - 77 - geo info [ 0 0] - 2009-10-19 15:16:19
garvinfo #dlcfall09 FADI=Federal Agency Digitization Initiative, multi-agency communication re digitization
Mon, 19 Oct 2009 19:06:22 +0000 - tweet id 4997972596 - 76 - geo info [ 0 0] - 2009-10-19 15:06:22
amylibrarian GPO works w/ Federal Agency Digitization Guidelines Initiative to help prevent duplicating digitizing http://tinyurl.com/ygcbwoo #dlcfall09
Mon, 19 Oct 2009 19:05:29 +0000 - tweet id 4997953106 - 75 - geo info [ 0 0] - 2009-10-19 15:05:29
kjclark @amylibrarian @freegovinfo thanks for the shout out about Victoria and my grant presentation on Wednesday :) #dlcfall09
Mon, 19 Oct 2009 19:02:04 +0000 - tweet id 4997879865 - 74 - geo info [ 0 0] - 2009-10-19 15:02:04
vdglenn barbara levergood is here! #dlcfall09 (former UNC docs libn)
Mon, 19 Oct 2009 19:01:08 +0000 - tweet id 4997863116 - 73 - geo info [ 0 0] - 2009-10-19 15:01:08
Mon, 19 Oct 2009 18:53:43 +0000 - tweet id 4997710183 - 70 - geo info [ 0 0] - 2009-10-19 14:53:43
freegovinfo @fakegodort darn didn't think anyone saw that #nopants #dlcfall09
Mon, 19 Oct 2009 18:52:43 +0000 - tweet id 4997689720 - 69 - geo info [ 0 0] - 2009-10-19 14:52:43
freegovinfo @vdglenn true. but GPO has too long been in a client/server mode with GPO as server. need to have a P2P mode. how to get there? #dlcfall09
Mon, 19 Oct 2009 18:51:52 +0000 - tweet id 4997672063 - 68 - geo info [ 0 0] - 2009-10-19 14:51:52
amyewest @vdglenn you are not alone in that view. #dlcfall09
Mon, 19 Oct 2009 18:50:29 +0000 - tweet id 4997642523 - 67 - geo info [ 0 0] - 2009-10-19 14:50:29
amylibrarian Attendee recommendation- GPO should know copyright law for photo digitization/offer stronger support for librarians on copyright #dlcfall09
Mon, 19 Oct 2009 18:49:46 +0000 - tweet id 4997627370 - 66 - geo info [ 0 0] - 2009-10-19 14:49:46
vdglenn am i unique in NOT wanting GPO to be everything to everyone? yeesh people. #dlcfall09
Mon, 19 Oct 2009 18:48:29 +0000 - tweet id 4997600789 - 65 - geo info [ 0 0] - 2009-10-19 14:48:29
freegovinfo RT @amylibrarian: For more grant info, Weds 9:15 session. "Finding Grants: A Winning Opportunity for Communities, Univ, &..." #dlcfall09
Mon, 19 Oct 2009 18:46:59 +0000 - tweet id 4997568771 - 64 - geo info [ 0 0] - 2009-10-19 14:46:59
amylibrarian For more grant information, attend Wednesday's 9:15 session. "Finding Grants: A Winning Opportunity for Communities, Univ, &..." #dlcfall09
Mon, 19 Oct 2009 18:43:16 +0000 - tweet id 4997491822 - 63 - geo info [ 0 0] - 2009-10-19 14:43:16
amylibrarian Request a letter of support from GPO prior to submitting grant proposal #dlcfall09
Mon, 19 Oct 2009 18:41:26 +0000 - tweet id 4997455654 - 62 - geo info [ 0 0] - 2009-10-19 14:41:26
btv3 Do we want 300 different libraries all digitizing their own random things? Or a systematic process? #dlcfall09
Mon, 19 Oct 2009 18:41:21 +0000 - tweet id 4997453809 - 61 - geo info [ 0 0] - 2009-10-19 14:41:21
amylibrarian Recommendation: instead of one institution putting in a grant proposal, try several libraries for more success #dlcfall09
Mon, 19 Oct 2009 18:40:25 +0000 - tweet id 4997435134 - 60 - geo info [ 0 0] - 2009-10-19 14:40:25
vdglenn i think i need to stop coming to these things for a while. just makes me cranky and a bit more jaded #dlcfall09
Mon, 19 Oct 2009 18:36:54 +0000 - tweet id 4997362803 - 59 - geo info [ 0 0] - 2009-10-19 14:36:54
amylibrarian A. GPO does not have grant funding authority. #dlcfall09
Mon, 19 Oct 2009 18:36:37 +0000 - tweet id 4997356915 - 58 - geo info [ 0 0] - 2009-10-19 14:36:37
amylibrarian Q. Issues stalling digitization: money, grants. Why isn’t GPO stepping up with the money/grants? #dlcfall09
Mon, 19 Oct 2009 18:35:52 +0000 - tweet id 4997340991 - 57 - geo info [ 0 0] - 2009-10-19 14:35:52